Showing posts with label interview. Show all posts
Showing posts with label interview. Show all posts

Tuesday, 17 July 2012

637 north doheny drive














like many rockers before and after, david had taken a liking to the good life. you know the old adage sex, drugs and rock and roll, well on top of this add a heap of consciousness expansion, an interest in the occult, and you will have the prevalent influences on what might have seemed like bowie’s immortal being. but paranoia soon struck in the form of the ole nemesis “nose candy” commonly known as cocaine.
with the help of bowie himself and some close associates at the time, marc spitz details in the just published bowie biography (crown) how david was living in LA just a few houses away from the labianca estate where charlie manson’s gang had terribly mutilated sharon tate and her friends in a ritualistic murder. bowie had taken to doing blow regularly and was getting more and more desperate and paranoid with each passing day.
in a number of shocking revelations, marc spitz in the bowie biography explains precisely what was transpiring in the pop singer’s troubled life: “while planning the follow-up to young americans (album), bowie would sit in the house with a pile of high-quality cocaine atop the glass coffee table, a sketch pad and a stack of books. psychic self defense (dion fortune) was his favorite. its author describes the book as a ‘safeguard for protecting yourself against paranormal malevolence.’
“using this and more arcane books on witchcraft, white magic and its malevolent counterpart, black magic, as rough guides to his own rapidly fragmenting psyche, bowie began drawing protective pentagrams on every surface.”
bowie told the author, “i’d stay up for weeks. even people like keith richards were floored by it. and there were pieces of me all over the floor. i paid with the worst manic depression of my life. my psyche went through the roof, it just fractured into pieces. i was hallucinating 24 hours a day.” spitz adds, “increasingly bowie was convinced there were witches after his semen. they were intent on using it to make a child to sacrifice to the devil, essentially the plot to roman polanski’s 1968 supernatural classic rosemary’s baby.”
seeing that he was in desperate need, poet and song writer cherry vanilla hooked bowie up with walli elmlark who spitz describes as a “manhattan-based intellectual. . . who taught classes at the new york school of occut arts and sciences then located on fourteenth street, just north of greenwich village,” and which the author of this article was director of from the mid 1960s for more than a decade, promoting lectures and classes by the who’s who of paranormal and UFO experts of that era, including cleve backster, stanley krippner, jim moseley, john keel – and, of course, walli elmlark the white witch of new york.
as added confirmation of the madness david was trying to cope with, ex wife angie bowie reveals even more details of his fascination and dabbling into the occult in her own personal remembrance, backstage passes: life on the wild side with david bowie.
“there was a beautiful art deco house on six acres, an exquisite site property and a terrific value at just $300,000, but he took one look at a detail i hadn’t noticed, a hexagram painted on the floor of a circular room by the previous owner, gypsy rose lee.
“a great deal of codling and reassurance got us through that crisis, and i went and found the doheny drive house. built in the late fifties or early sixties, it was a white cube surrounding an indoor swimming pool. david like the place, but i thought it was too small to meet our needs for very long, and i wasn’t crazy about the pool. in my experience, indoor pools are always a problem.
“this one was no exception, albeit not in any of the usual ways. its drawback was one i hadn’t encountered before and haven’t seen or heard of since: satan lived in it. with his own eyes, david said, he’d seen HIM rising up out of the water one night.”
feeling demonic forces moving in, david felt strongly that he needed an exorcism and asked that his new found friend white witch walli elmlark be called upon to lend her assistance to remove the evil from his surroundings.
“a greek orthodox church, in LA would have done it for us (there was a priest available for such a service, the people had told me) but david wouldn’t have it. no strangers allowed, he said. so there we stood, with just walli’s instructions and a few hundred dollars’ worth of books, talismans, and assorted items from hollywood’s comprehensive selection of fine occult emporia.
“there he (david bowie) was, then, primed and ready. the proper books and doodads were arranged on a big old-fashioned lectern. the incantation began, and although i had no idea what was being said or what language it was being said in, i couldn’t stop a weird cold feeling rising up in me as david droned on and on.
“there’s no easy or elegant way to say this, so i’ll just say it straight. at a certain point in the ritual, the pool began to bubble. it bubbled vigorously (perhaps “thrashed” is a better term) in a manner inconsistent with any explanation involving air filters or the like.”
the rock and roll couple watched in amazement. angie says she tried to be flippant – “’well, dear, aren’t you clever? It seems to be working. something’s making a move, don’t you think?’ – but i couldn’t keep it up. it was very, very strange; even after my recent experiences i was having trouble accepting what my eyes were seeing.”
angie insists that she would peak through the glass doors leading to the pool every so often and was dumb founded by what she saw. “on the bottom of the pool was a large shadow, or stain, which had not been there before the ritual began. It was in the shape of a beast of the underworld; it reminded me of those twisted, tormented gargoyles screaming silently from the spires of medieval cathedrals. it was ugly, shocking, malevolent; it frightened me.
“i backed away from it feeling very strange, went through the doorway, and told david what I’d seen, trying to be nonchalant but not doing very well. he turned white but eventually became revived enough to spend the rest of the night doing coke. he wouldn’t go near the pool, though.
“i still don’t know what to think about that night. it runs directly counter to my pragmatism and my everyday faith in the integrity of the “normal” world, and it confuses me greatly. what troubles me the most is that if you were to call that stain the mark of satan, i don’t see how i could argue with you.”
“david, of course, insisted that we move from the house as quickly as possible, and we did that, but i’ve heard from reliable sources (michael lipman for one, the property’s real estate agent) that subsequent tenants haven’t been able to remove the shadow. even though the pool has been painted over a number of times, the shadow has always come back.”


article from paranoia magazine
david bowie and the occult

Friday, 18 May 2012

the bedroom interview with michael pitt

j.t. leroy: okay, the tape recorder is on. where's your favorite place to make love?

michael pitt: i don't think i have a favorite place to make love.


jt: do you prefer it on the floor or on the bed?


mike: i do like it on the floor, only because it seems like you can get in there better. but sometimes on the bed you can get good leverage too, because it's high off the ground and you can be hanging off of it.


jt: so, you're staying in a lot of hotels because you're filming a sandra bullock movie right now called fool proof. do you worry that the maids are aware of your sexual habits?


mike: yeah, i'm always worried because every night they have to replace the body lotion but not the shampoo and conditioner. i always wonder if they know i'm jerking off with it.

jt: do you just leave them a big tip or something?

mike: yeah, i actually do give them a big tip, only because they put up with it a lot. i'm really dirty.

jt: when was the first time you masturbated?

mike: about fifth grade, in CCD class. i was always really bored, so i would go to the bathroom and try to masturbate. i thought masturbation was fake, i thought everyone was just kidding about it because nothing would happen for me, nothing would come out. but I would just do it anyway. i remember there was a crucifix right over the toilet. then finally one time, all of a sudden, it just went off and I couldn't believe it. it was all over my hand so i tasted it, because, you know, i was just a kid and I was curious. after it happened, i was like, oh my god, i'm doing this all the time.

jt: how did it taste?

mike: it tasted like, you know, like how it tastes. i know you know what semen tastes like.

jt: yeah, i know.

mike: i remember walking back into class and they were talking about the word of god.

jt: and you had just discovered it!

mike: yeah, i did. i didn't feel guilty at all. i thought, wow, maybe god isn't so bad.

jt: well, in the play that you got discovered in, trestle at pope lick creek by naomi wallace, you had to jerk off, right? and you masturbate in hedwig and the angry inch. do you ever worry that you'll be known as the jerk-off boy?

mike: no, i think to worry about something like that would probably cause it to happen in some way. i'm not really modest when it comes to sex stuff. if there's a reason to do it in the story, then I do it. i feel like i'm in a great position to show people that things that aren't necessarily "normal" are okay. we're so uptight as americans. i think just showing that you're comfortable doing those things, stuff rubs off — no pun intended.



jt: did your mother come and see the play where you were whacking it?


mike: yeah, they did. they said that they liked it, but you could tell that they were kind of weirded out. i got weirded out during a sunday show where all these senior citizens got in for free — and they really didn't know what they were going to see. the whole front row was old ladies.

jt: oh my god.

mike: my face was literally a few feet away from them.

jt: were you wearing clothes?

mike: yeah, i was wearing clothes. well, they were half on and half off.

jt: well, what did they think?

mike: i don't know, my eyes were closed. but they were really loud. i remember this one lady saying, "what's he doing? agnes, what's he doing?"

jt: did agnes answer? "he's whackin' it, ethel."

mike: no, or at least i didn't hear.

jt: so how do you feel about being turned into a sex symbol? you know, with men and women falling in love with you, like the way they do with brad pitt. how do you deal with that?

mike: i don't think i'm considered one right now. but I think if it happens and starts getting in the way of doing things that are important, there are ways to fix that. like johnny depp. he was a sex symbol and he totally turned it around. and you can tell it was a conscious choice, you know? it wasn't something that just blindly happened. he was kind of forcing people to look at him the way he wanted them to see him. i admire that.

jt: yep. um . . . you're a very romantic kind of guy.

mike: yeah?

jt: yeah, you don't think you are? you strike me as really tender.

mike: thanks.
jt: i find you very sweet, very tender, very sensitive.

mike: [very quietly] yeah, well i find you the same way.

jt: well, now you're making me blush. [laughs] but like . . . i mean . . . i guess . . . so, when you're . . . oh gosh . . . rewind!

mike: wow, that was easy.
jt: what? to get me flustered? well, the thing that's intense about you is when you're with someone, you're very much with them. you've got an intensity of focus with them, like what you bring to your work.

mike: [quietly] it depends on the person.

jt: what makes the difference?

mike: i don't know, like good people and bad people.

jt: i mean in a romantic sense . . . are you always intense with someone you're with?

mike: no. it's not as one-sided as you think it is. i think i give off what's given.

jt: kind of like acting in a scene and rising to the level of others?

mike: oh, let's not talk about acting.

jt: is it easier to talk about sex?

mike: yeah, i guess.

jt: so you have very sensitive nipples?

mike: oh, god. i have weird-looking nipples. i have girl nipples.

jt: 'cause they're so sensitive?

mike: no, 'cause they're so girly. 'cause they're kind of big.

jt: well, I think that's really sexy. you don't like them?

mike: i don't really like 'em; some people like 'em.

jt: i think the combination of your lips and your nipples is going to make the gay community just totally fall in love with you.

mike: well, what about the straight community?

jt: well, the girls will love you too. take river phoenix: he was somebody that girls loved, men loved and he didn't really give a fuck what people thought. he was so fucking great. like martha plimpton said, river would just fall in love with people's souls and it didn't matter what sex they were. you know, that's so great in a world where people constantly have to define themselves. like tom cruise always denying that he's gay.


mike: well, I think that's more about being secure. i look at river as someone who was really secure about himself.


jt: do you get fan mail?

mike: my mom gets the fan mail for my role on dawson's creek. i didn't like to read and respond to them because it always depressed me for some reason. i went from doing theater where adults would come up to me and tell me i gave a really incredible performance, to having twelve year olds sending me mail saying, "i think you're hot." it got really hard for me to play the game, to pretend like it mattered, because i felt like i was lying to people by doing it. but my mom gets a kick out of it for some reason. she tells me she gets all these letters from guys in jail.

jt: that's hot. do you answer the letters from jail?

mike: well, my mom's kind of sweet and gullible. she's sending them headshots.

jt: how do you feel about being the san quentin pin-up boy?

mike: i feel like i probably shouldn't get arrested.

jt: that's a good answer. so you're not answering twelve-year-old girls, but you're answering these hard and fast criminals?

mike: no, my mom answers everyone. she's still doing it and I ask her, "mom, what are you doing this for? it's all little girls asking things like, what's my favorite color?" and she says, "yes, but that's important, that's important stuff."

jt: do you think hedwig is really going to change your life? people really, really love it.

mike: i don't know if it'll change my life, but I hope people will like it. your life doesn't really change.

jt: well, it does if you get really famous and you can't walk outside. i know how you like to ride the trains.

mike: yeah, but a lot of times I see people looking at me, but they don't say anything because i'm on the subway too, coming home from work or whatever.

jt: do a lot of teenage girls recognize you?

mike: they did when I was on dawson's creek. it was really, really fucked up, 'cause you feel like a circus clown. they'll literally just start screaming and pointing at you, like you're a three-headed donkey.

jt: and for them it's not even you, it's what you represent. speaking of representations, is tommy gnosis, your character in the movie who falls in love with the transsexual hedwig, bisexual?

mike: i don't know; i didn't play him that way. i played him as a straight kid who just fell in love with someone. i felt like he fell in love with her the first time he saw her. i could have played him gay or bisexual, but I thought he'd be more interesting if he was straight and there was nothing he could really do about it because he had already fallen in love.

jt: i think that's absolutely perfect. i think that's a lot more interesting. when a straight guy falls in love, he can't help it, despite the situation or who the person is . . . just one last question. what's the most erogenous part of your body?

mike: what's "erogenous" mean?

jt: you know, what has the most sexy feeling, what's most sensitive. what part of your body feels the most incredible when somebody touches it?

mike: it really depends on the person. my lower back. that's really weird, but i really like my lower back being touched. that's horrible.

jt: why is that horrible?

mike: it just seems like a really unexciting way to end an interview.


from nerve - july, 2001